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    Because it seems a lot of people have suggestions as to how we can change the current diary system, I think that we need a separate thread for it. So please post all suggestions for changes to the current system here and Mike, Ricky, and I will review them.

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    Default Re: The Suggestion Box

    The two suggestions that have been proposed so far in the previous thread are

    1) The adoption of a designated unique owner

    2) A system where your diary will be deleted if you got a certain number of [X]'s in a certain time frame EX: 3 [X]'s in 6 months.
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    I'd like to clearly know who the unique owner of a diary is.
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    Maybe at the bottom of the screen where it says 'moderators' a different color for the unique owner(s) or creator?
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    I think it would be a good idea if you make a list of all the members who own multiple diaries, and see if there is some way that you can place all of the multiple diaries owned by the same people next to each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorge View Post
    I'd like to clearly know who the unique owner of a diary is.
    If a gmod who's been on staff since early 2006 doesn't know, that's proof that the old Sassy system is confusing and badly needs reform.

    Apart from simplicity and common sense, having a designated unique owner would make it clear who should speak for a diary.

    Let's say the person with everybody's favorite user name, touchmyhardon, got added to a diary as a joke by one of the less active owners of a diary.
    touchmyhardon starts getting email alerts that he is getting PMs in connection with his new status. He then returns to Gov to see what is going on. When he finds out that people are making fun of him, he requests that all the other owners of his diary be demodded or even that the diary be deleted.

    Some may claim this scenario to be far fetched. But within the current rules, touchmyhardon would have every right to do those things.

    There are additional problems that having a designated unique owner would prevent.
    A designated unique owner could not be added to any other diary. That would prevent situations which have already happened where somebody gets added, without that person being consulted, to a second diary. That has caused that owner to lose his/her unique status in the first diary and instigated a unique owner crisis in that diary when it received the [x].
    And if there is an internal problem within a diary, it would be the responsibility of a designated unique owner to sort it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by optid View Post
    If a gmod who's been on staff since early 2006 doesn't know, that's proof that the old Sassy system is confusing and badly needs reform.
    I guess..

    Quote Originally Posted by optid View Post
    Let's say the person with everybody's favorite user name, touchmyhardon, got added to a diary as a joke by one of the less active owners of a diary.
    touchmyhardon starts getting email alerts that he is getting PMs in connection with his new status. He then returns to Gov to see what is going on. When he finds out that people are making fun of him, he requests that all the other owners of his diary be demodded or even that the diary be deleted.
    I never thought of that, but I agree, there needs to be some way that only the unique owner can change stuff like that. I really don't think it would be too hard to ask all other owners to take up their suggestions through him
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    Urgh, why is everybody so confused on unique owners. A unique owner is somebody that owns only one diary and posts in said diary weekly to keep it active. There can be multiple unique owners, but as long as one unique owner posts the required times the diary is not marked for deletion.

    ^Put something like that in the diary rules, and the problem goes away. It's not that bad of a system. The only alternative is having one owner (unique or otherwise) post in the diary to keep it from getting deleted. That really isn't the most ideal system because then you don't have one owner who is theory solely dedicated to the diary.
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    One thing I just remembered. It would be cool to have, but I'm not sure if it would help or hurt. Having a list of all the diary owners, just like the forum leaders list on the main forum page, except it would be at the bottom of the diaries main page. It would show each diary owner, and then list underneath them which diaries they owned.
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    Have a specific group for diary owners?

    Maybe have it show up on the "view groups" page so they are easily identifiable ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otter View Post
    Urgh, why is everybody so confused on unique owners. A unique owner is somebody that owns only one diary and posts in said diary weekly to keep it active. There can be multiple unique owners, but as long as one unique owner posts the required times the diary is not marked for deletion.

    ^Put something like that in the diary rules, and the problem goes away. It's not that bad of a system. The only alternative is having one owner (unique or otherwise) post in the diary to keep it from getting deleted. That really isn't the most ideal system because then you don't have one owner who is theory solely dedicated to the diary.
    Agreed, if you are a unique owner then you should have the common sense to consult the rest of the diary's owners before you join another one. Instead of just joining diaries willy nilly and going OMG X WTF?

    I like the current system, it is only flawed when people don't bother reading the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otter View Post
    There can be multiple unique owners,

    That's the point. There shouldn't be. There should only be one unique owner
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    That's the point. There shouldn't be. There should only be one unique owner
    Why?
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    Why?
    What I meant was, that's the proposed idea.

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    1) The adoption of a designated unique owner

    I see the sense of it though. If a diary has 5 unique owners, and only one is required to keep the diary from being deleted, it could end up with 5 inactive people, only coming back once in a while and the diary staying alive.

    If theres only one, you could see who the diary was started by, and who is responsible for it.
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    The problem with limiting to one unique owner is I can be very regular then stop, and even though the rest are posting very regularly they get the X. The Irish Lounge has 4 unique owners and it has always worked well.
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