Sopa and pipa

[Thespiandude]

What do think about the sopa and pipa laws about piracy. Wikipedia turned there english website off to protest today.

[Giggity]

I don't like them.

[joshua.justice]

I'm anti-SOPA

[Aelius]

I'm not familiar with them. I'm not sure what the problem is with the bills. I don't know anything about them, though, so of course I neither support nor oppose.

[Razer]

i HATE them. it will basicly take away all First Amendment rights of the American Citizen in the online world. The Economy basicly is ran by the internet. The US goverment is basicly trying to control the worlds internet, let alone if this bill goes threw it will turn in to a monarchy, and poor Citizens just barely making it by, getting sued for posting a link to a site such as GovTeen.

Its a major issue, and with mostly all major sites including Google(<3 Google) are protesting. Google, being the most visited website in the world is against it. If that does not cause attention, than im moving to the UK.

[joshua.justice]

I'm not familiar with them. I'm not sure what the problem is with the bills. I don't know anything about them, though, so of course I neither support nor oppose.

That's surprising, you're usually really into the debates and ready to shove your thoughts down peoples throats Here's a link so you can read up and argue!

[Dawn]

I called my Senators Nelson and Rubio and Reps Mack and Rooney today. Talked to secretaries at Mack and Rooney's. Only got voice-mail at Nelson's and Rubio's. Rubio's VM box was full so he must be getting a lot of calls.

[Aelius]

That's surprising, you're usually really into the debates and ready to shove your thoughts down peoples throats Here's a link so you can read up and argue!

Okay... I'm not sure what the problem is? What am I missing here? The bills seem to be reaffirming the illegality of that which is already illegal, is it not? Sure, it's "censoring", but you don't think we already censor illegal material? You don't think the government censors child pornography that it finds on the internet? Trust me, probably no one on these forums is as much a proponent of freedom of speech and opponent of censorship as I am, and unless I'm missing something I do not understand the uproar against these two bills.

[Oversight]

I thinnk this is absolutely stupid of the US senate or who ever it is wanting to get these bills through look that the LARGE online businesses that have joined up to fight the bills, being Aussie our government wouldn't even think about it they know what would happen if they tried...

1. AOL
2. Boing Boing
3. BuzzFeed
4. CloudFlare
5. Copyblogger
6. ConsumerBell
7. Creative Commons
8. Curse
9. Daily Kos
10. deviantART
11. Discover
12. Disqus
13. DreamHost
14. Dyn
15. eBay
16. Embedly
17. Engine Advocacy
18. Entertainment Consumers Association
19. ESET
20. Etsy
21. Facebook
22. Fantagraphics
23. foursquare
24. Gandi
25. Google
26. GreenHostIt
27. HostGator
28. Hover
29. I Can Has Cheezburger?
30. IndieGoGo
31. Internet Archive
32. Irregular Times
33. Jive Software
34. Kaspersky Lab

1. Kickstarter
2. LinkedIn
3. MetaFilter
4. Mozilla
5. Name.com
6. Namecheap
7. OpenDNS
8. O’Reilly Radar
9. Pastebin.com
10. PayPal
11. Quora
12. Rackspace
13. Reddit
14. ReferralCanday
15. Riot Games
16. ServInt
17. Scribd
18. Teachers Pay Teachers
19. Techdirt
20. Torrentfreak
21. Tucows
22. Tumblr
23. Twitter
24. Ubu Web
25. Uservoice
26. Vimeo
27. Webs, Inc.
28. Wikipedia
29. WordPress
30. Yahoo!
31. Y Combinator
32. Zopim
33. Zynga Game Network

who the hell would want Google, Twitter and Facebook up against them geez

[Oversight]

and also why give it to the government to monitor and close down any illegal websites, STUPID :/

[Arkiasis]

I'm not familiar with them. I'm not sure what the problem is with the bills. I don't know anything about them, though, so of course I neither support nor oppose.

https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

Stop Online Piracy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Aelius]

being Aussie our government wouldn't even think about it they know what would happen if they tried...

Hahaha... yeah, like the Australian government is a paragon of free speech and anti-censorship.

https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

Stop Online Piracy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I've read the first two links before and remained completely confused as to the nature of the online uproar I see. As for the video, it seems to basically be saying several things, all of which do nothing but continue to leave me puzzled.

a) The entertainment industry already has many legal ways to protect intellectual property.

Then why do you care about this one so much and not any of the other ones?

b) The government will legally be allowed to block certain websites, or require ISPs to block certain websites.

So? The government already has that power when it comes to child pornography websites or something.

c) The government might use this as a way to censor content that says something the government doesn't like.

This is an unsubstantiated claim... where in the bill would it allow for the censorship of, say, political opinions?

d) It won't stop piracy.

And the censorship of child pornography evidently hasn't stopped child pornography.

e) What if other countries pass similar laws?

What the fuck? Do I even need to explain how stupid this objection is?

So... "end piracy, not liberty"? Whose liberty is being ended? What the hell are these people talking about? I'll be honest, it reminds me of when the Tea Baggers say "I want my country back" or "for freedom and liberty", you know, as if the country/freedom/liberty went anywhere... as if someone took them.

[Oversight]

Hahaha... yeah, like the Australian government is a paragon of free speech and anti-censorship.

Not what i meant but some bills that were going through the Houses have been stopped dead by public outcry and mass publicity

[trip.flip]

SOPA and PIPA are laws that are going to let the government censor what you see on the Internet. It was made to stop piracy (Stop Online Piracy Act) and it gives the government the right to take copyrighted information on the Internet. The laws actually have good intentions but actually mean that if one person from Youtube uploads a song without permission, the government would have the power to shut down Youtube entirely. The laws aren't the smartest creations of our law makers, and if they're passed, it shows that the American government no longer stand for what it's people believe in, for over 10,000 other websites are blacking out in protest.

[Kruimeltje]

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