what you wont see on the 'liberal' media...

[marchingbandnut]

http://fallujapictures.blogspot.com/

enjoy

-Kevin

[Bigs180]

Guess what, its War

[Faster]

That website isn't really that great. It dosn't have video footage of US forces killing foreign journalists or videofootage of US forces slaughtering civilians.

It also just has pictures. It dosn't explain that the US is violating the Geneva Conventions by making it illegal for men between the ages of 15 and 55 to be on the streets in Fallujah and by preventing men between the ages of 15 and 55 from leaving the city before the invasion.

[roan]

Pictures were sad to look at, you ruined my night. It's war, what do you expect. Soliders fight with nerf guns?

I smell another pointless debate thread.

[Billy Rebel]

chingon you had the last post in the kkk forum im here to congradulate you

[P.T. Knocc Out]

thanks billy, you forgot the accent on the O, it's Chingón.

um, guys, i dont think he's trying to say war is bad, he's just showing us what the media wouldnt show us.

[dissention]

thanks billy, you forgot the accent on the O, it's Chingón.

um, guys, i dont think he's trying to say war is bad, he's just showing us what the media wouldnt show us.
Maybe they should show it. Knock some sense into a lot of people.

[Mosquito]

You mean to say people suffer in war? Shit, I never realised....

[Mosquito]

It also just has pictures. It dosn't explain that the US is violating the Geneva Conventions by making it illegal for men between the ages of 15 and 55 to be on the streets in Fallujah and by preventing men between the ages of 15 and 55 from leaving the city before the invasion.Given that the Geneva Convention relates to the treatment of prisoners of war, which articles of the convention is the US violating with the above restrictions?

[P.T. Knocc Out]

Maybe they should show it. Knock some sense into a lot of people.yeah, they should.

[Oxford]

It's things like this that only bolster my feelings towards this war...

When will it end? How many have to die before people get the picture? *sigh* It's just depressing.

[P.T. Knocc Out]

well i think this Iraq thing is gonna last a long time, at least 10 years.

[Keith]

Given that the Geneva Convention relates to the treatment of prisoners of war, which articles of the convention is the US violating with the above restrictions?There are four Geneva Conventions. Only the third and a little bit of the fourth deal with prisoners of war. The first deals with the treatment of battefield casulties, and the second made the first Geneva Convention also apply to maritime combat.

Specifically, Part II of the fouth Geneva Convention would be violated by not allowing civillians to leave the crossfire simply because of their gender or age. Although there's always a possibility in a guerrilla war of soldiers being able to slip into the civillian population, there are searches, questioning, and many various means of stopping the enemy from slipping through your hands other than forcing innocent people into harm's way.

[Mosquito]

Part II of the Fourth Convention doesn't say anything about movement of civilians. Which article of Part II did you have in mind?

[Faster]

Given that the Geneva Convention relates to the treatment of prisoners of war, which articles of the convention is the US violating with the above restrictions?

Given that you have no clue what the fuck you are talking about why do you ask stupid questions. The Gevena Conventions relates to the treatment of prisioners of war among many other things.

Between the Third and Fourth Conventions, all persons receive basic protections. Troops themselves become prisoners of war when captured and cannot be tortured or maltreated in any way, even for purposes of interrogation. All civilians are likewise protected, including saboteurs and others carrying out hostile acts against the occupying forces. If a crime is committed, the suspect may be brought to a fair trial but not maltreated in any way. Denial of medical care, blocking supplies, and interfering with hospitals, ambulances and clinics is forbidden outright. Withholding medical care to a wounded prisoner of war is also prohibited. So is forcing fleeing civilians back into a dangerous battlefield.

The US has withheld medical care from wounded prisoners of war and from civilians (by preventing the Iraqi Red Cresent from operating in Fallujah). It has also force fleeing civilians back into a dangerous battlefield (by preventing all men between the ages of 15-55 from being on the streets and by preventing all men between the ages of 15-45 from fleeing the city before invasion)

The Fourth Geneva Convention is "CONVENTION (IV) RELATIVE TO THE PROTECTION OF CIVILIAN PERSONS IN TIME OF WAR". You can read it yourself if you want instead of asking stupid questions easily found using google. Look at Part II of it in particular. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Human_Rights/geneva1.html

[marchingbandnut]

all i was trying to point out is that the Whore of a media that we have in this country, that the righties try to brand as 'liberal' which is a bunch of schite, will not tell us anything. you have a few exceptions in talk radio and on tv. Air america radio, and keith olbermann on msnbc... even those either don't have alot of coverage or are irrelevant.

all we see is "happy iraq' a la Fox News...
Another Glorious victory against eurasia...

-Kevin

[Crossfire]

The media, by and large, is politically Liberal. ;)

90% of members of the media supported Kerry. 8% supported Bush. Call that conservative and you're off your rocker. :P

[marchingbandnut]

then its a ... duck

http://66.92.134.175/~benburch/old/MalloyMemories/14_Characteristics_of_Fascism.mp3

[Faster]

The media, by and large, is politically Liberal. ;)

90% of members of the media supported Kerry. 8% supported Bush. Call that conservative and you're off your rocker. :P
It matters what the editors are, not the people who read the teleprompter. All the editors are mostly conservative.

I also heard that 90% of statistics where made up.

Anyway, if the media is liberal is needs to start acting like it.

[optid]

The right wing disinformation about the "liberal media" is shot to pieces in the book "What Liberal Media?" by Eric Alterman.
Here's an article by the author which has been adapted from the book.
Must reading for those fighting ridiculous charges by Republicans.
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030224&s=alterman2


Last summer a documentary about bias on Fox News was released.
The director of "Outfoxed" was interviewed on the NPR media criticism program, On The Media, last July.
Hear it here:
http://www.onthemedia.org/stream/ram.py?file=raotm/otm070904h.ra

[marchingbandnut]

outfoxed is great. good information.

-Kevin

[Crossfire]

So is Bias by Bernard Goldberg:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895261901/103-9005276-0523818?v=glance