Is Sexuality Socially Outlawed?

[Jacco]

I'm sure we all remember the "scandal" of Miley Cyrus when she did the "topless" photos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miley_Cyrus#Vanity_Fair_Photos

Now Daniel Radcliffe, the star of the Harry Potter film franchise, is being ridiculed for some photos of him nude on a horse.
http://www.popeater.com/movies/article/at-least-leibovitz-picked-someone-older/143398?icid=100214839x1207893215x1200456709

In addition, it is difficult to go to a store to buy a vibrator or such a similar item. People who look at pornography are publicly shunned even though 90% of people have, or do look at it on a regular basis.

So, the question is, do we, as a society, "outlaw" sexuality of everyone, especially teenagers? Is it right to do this?

[Herr Undead]

There are two issues here that I inherently believe need to be dealt with.

First, when it comes to celebrities, I don't necessarily think that society is outlawing sexuality, but it comes as a shocker when one of the world's childhood stars does something sexually related. Children of all ages adore the star of Hannah Montanna and Harry Potter. They're the people that children grow up with. Argueably, it's the same effect that Britney Spears had on people when she became who she was. Instead of being the innocent child star on Mickey Mouse club, she's now a pop star who defies a lot of social rules. It's that which shocks people.

I do think that society shuns sexuality from public eyes though and with good reason. Children don't need to learn about sexuality until they're ready for it. Parents don't like having to deal with the topic for their children either. Society just likes to think of teenagers as being innocent children.

[Vai]

I'm sure we all remember the "scandal" of Miley Cyrus when she did the "topless" photos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miley_Cyrus#Vanity_Fair_Photos

Miley Ray Cyrus<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-name_change_0-0>[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miley_Cyrus#cite_note-name_change-0)</SUP> (born Destiny Hope Cyrus;

that's where i stopped reading, so i cant answer your question

[Jacco]

There are two issues here that I inherently believe need to be dealt with.

First, when it comes to celebrities, I don't necessarily think that society is outlawing sexuality, but it comes as a shocker when one of the world's childhood stars does something sexually related. Children of all ages adore the star of Hannah Montanna and Harry Potter. They're the people that children grow up with. Argueably, it's the same effect that Britney Spears had on people when she became who she was. Instead of being the innocent child star on Mickey Mouse club, she's now a pop star who defies a lot of social rules. It's that which shocks people.

I do think that society shuns sexuality from public eyes though and with good reason. Children don't need to learn about sexuality until they're ready for it. Parents don't like having to deal with the topic for their children either. Society just likes to think of teenagers as being innocent children.
but there is a problem with that. if children dont need to learn of it until they are ready, then who is to decide they are ready? most teens dont know what sex is until like eigth grade when they have alread started masturbating and expressing themselves in such ways as that.


Miley Ray Cyrus<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-name_change_0-0">[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miley_Cyrus#cite_note-name_change-0)</sup> (born Destiny Hope Cyrus;

that's where i stopped reading, so i cant answer your question
it didnt take yout to the vanity fair section?

[Lamborgotti]

but there is a problem with that. if children dont need to learn of it until they are ready, then who is to decide they are ready? most teens dont know what sex is until like eigth grade when they have alread started masturbating and expressing themselves in such ways as that.


Why not their parents? Like you said, they'll probably just rebel anyway. You could either try to be a give a "good" influence and have your children do that stuff behind your back (which you'd have no control over) or you could be a bad influence and consentingly allow your children to grow up to be perverts...

On that note, since everyone pretty much would qualify as a "pervert," I guess the question is, why are we hiding it? Well, I think it's just something that doesn't need to be out in the open. It's distracting, sex doesn't need to be everywhere all the time. For those who want it to be something sacred and private, it can be; and for those who don't, they're still gonna get it anyway.

I sort of agree with Mr.Scientist in that people just want celebrities to be what they became famous for. Miley Cyrus, she's a singer, if you want to look at that stuff, get a naughty magazine. No reason for her to do it. You see, no one would have been upset if Mario Lopez was cast in Equus, because that's pretty much what he's good at. But with Daniel Radcliffe, who wants to see him without clothes? Did anyone say "look, a popular child wizard! let's strip him down!"?

[Wensleydale]

But with Daniel Radcliffe, who wants to see him without clothes?

Me.

[Herr Undead]

but there is a problem with that. if children dont need to learn of it until they are ready, then who is to decide they are ready? most teens dont know what sex is until like eigth grade when they have alread started masturbating and expressing themselves in such ways as that.
Nowhere in my original post did I ever mention anything about establishing a limit. I was only analyzing why society is afraid of celebrities become sexual and why society doesn't like children learning about sex at all. I like what Lamborgotti had said, that it's the parents' responsibility, but again, I never said that teens and children couldn't learn about sexuality. I had just thought that if children didn't learn about sexuality until they were more mature, it wouldn't be so bad.

[madgeisgod]

We need to have more comprehensive sex education and probably at younger ages, and be a lot less uptight about sex and nudity. Its nothing special or abnormal or wrong.

[Heracross]

We need to have more comprehensive sex education, and be a lot less uptight about sex and nudity. Its nothing special or abnormal or wrong.

100%, yes.

There is nothing wrong with sex and nudity, but society makes it look like a crime.

[J. Craig Venter]

Thank you.

And Miley Cyrus's Vanity Fair photos weren't a big deal anyway. All they were was photos of her with a towel covering the front of her body. There was no nudity in it.

[Angel Down]

We need to have more comprehensive sex education and probably at younger ages, and be a lot less uptight about sex and nudity. Its nothing special or abnormal or wrong.

Most of society would disagree.

[Druid]

I once asked a sex shop guy if he owned the place. He replied and said he had. I asked him why he wanted to go into the sex shop business. He replied that he felt deeply for people to have the right to have a sexual freedom. He went on to say that people need a vice to satisfy their sexual needs. I said I agreed.

One of the things my Dad wanted to do when he was young was to be a magazine shop owner. He wanted to supply magazines from all over the world. He also mentioned he would have a good porn section because that could very well be 40% of the shops income.

[iwpoe]

So, the question is, do we, as a society, "outlaw" sexuality of everyone, especially teenagers?No. Clearly not. You've overextended your examples to imply far more than you can imply. We try to limit particular sexual expressions in particular instances. The question of what and why is far more interesting than your question which is simply a false question.

[Herr Undead]

Most of society would disagree.
Just because the majority of society disagrees or agrees with anything does not make it right or wrong. That's the 'appeal to the majority fallacy.'

[cherokee]

We need to have more comprehensive sex education and probably at younger ages, and be a lot less uptight about sex and nudity. Its nothing special or abnormal or wrong.
You hit the nail. And this is more so in America. Americans are much more perceptive and uptight than people in Europe. I understood the whole uproar over the Vanessa Hudgen's pics but Daniel Radcliffe's pics aren't a big deal nor are Miley's.

[Wensleydale]

Eh? What's different about Hudgen's pics that make them worse than Radcliffe's? I've seen everything both of them have...

[madgeisgod]

Eh? What's different about Hudgen's pics that make them worse than Radcliffe's? I've seen everything both of them have...

Eh I doubt you have seen his frontal bits, I have yet to find a pic of that anywhere. There is a fake one floating around though (the black and white posed one in front of the horse is fake). He IS circumcised in real life.

[cherokee]

Eh? What's different about Hudgen's pics that make them worse than Radcliffe's? I've seen everything both of them have...
Well for one in Hudgens pics you can see her pubic region
In daniel's you cant

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[Wensleydale]

Eh I doubt you have seen his frontal bits, I have yet to find a pic of that anywhere. There is a fake one floating around though (the black and white posed one in front of the horse is fake). He IS circumcised in real life.

Rly that was fake?

I feel cheated.

[The Amazing G]

I think it kinda is

for example I thought that whole "controversy" over Miley Cyrus's "nude" pictures (and I wouldn't call them nude anyway since you can't see anything) completely utterly retarded and I remember thinking "what do we live in the 1950's now?"

and if it was because she's a Christian well what Christians can't get naked now all of a sudden?:P the singer Tiffany (who's also a Christian) did playboy a fews years back and no one cared...

[jaegerjaquez]

Eh I doubt you have seen his frontal bits, I have yet to find a pic of that anywhere. There is a fake one floating around though (the black and white posed one in front of the horse is fake). He IS circumcised in real life.

Is he? O.o
Didn't know...I've been told he wasnt. Lol.

[cherokee]

He IS circumcised in real life
That would make sense as his mother is Jewish.

[Patronus]

Well, those pictures were from a play that Daniel Radcliffe was in. You gotta realize that Europe is a lot less uptight about that sort of stuff. The Vanessa Hudgens situation was quite different from the Miley and Daniel pics due to the circumstances in which those pictures were taken and distributed. All three situations are rather difficult to compare, and don't think you can draw too many generalizations about society from them, except that perhaps that some people enjoy a bit of "scandal."

[Jacco]

ugh, this commercial both proves my point and offends me at the same time. only in america, eh?

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